Charles Blow sits down with Maya Wiley, New York City Mayoral Candidate, on her wanting to make history by becoming the first Black woman elected as mayor for the country’s most populated city.

Wiley wants to transform policing in New York City, wanting to cut $1 billion from the New York Police Department’s budget to fund alternatives to policing. “We need money to make sure we have mental health crisis response, we need money to make sure we have trauma and formed care in our schools, we need money to make sure it’s easier to get a job than a gone because those things bring crime down,” Wiley says. Wiley tells Blow that the addition of cops in the community doesn’t actual make it safer.